Acts of the Apostles 4:32-35

4:32 Now the whole group of those who believed were of one heart and soul, and no one claimed private ownership of any possessions, but everything they owned was held in common.

4:33 With great power the apostles gave their testimony to the resurrection of the Lord Jesus, and great grace was upon them all.

4:34 There was not a needy person among them, for as many as owned lands or houses sold them and brought the proceeds of what was sold.

4:35 They laid it at the apostles’ feet, and it was distributed to each as any had need

I think you missed my point. I think historically most Democrats would have been very supportive of Lieberman and our current war against Islamic Fascism.

Jackson, FDR, Truman, Kennedy and LBJ were all American exceptionalists. They supported a strong defense against foes of America. It is only in recent memory that the Democratic party has become so limp-wristed.

Groan. I see this misinterpretation of events quite often. Lieberman provided cover for the [President] by chastizing those who criticize him, “at our nations peril.” The distance Joe and his Republican buddies have moved to the right is so great, it makes the opposition appear to be “far left,” when, in fact, we have never moved.

Well, that’s not true either, we are moving forward. The exceptional nature of our country, we believe, does not come from the wealth and power of our corporations and captains of industry, but from the strength of its middle class. Wealth and power in the hands of the few exists in many countries–there is nothing exceptional about that–other than in the form of degrees. People powered politics, which is not moving to the left, but forward, is the exceptional nature of America.

Lack of Republican support for the Republican candidate in CT and the endorsement of Lieberman by Sean Hannity, Ann Coulter, Karl Rove and political contributions funding Lieberman from rightwingers prove the point that Joe left the party, from a safe seat, and after being defeated in the primary is now running his “kiss my ring” campaign.

Joe ran to the right, and increased the distance from the left.

Allen at Acorns from an Okie explains why you can’t deal effectively with the greedy b*stards in the corporate world by making the Government more powerful: Greedy Bastards are Greedy Bastards. Being greedy, they will gravitate to where the power is. T…

I think it’s an oversimplification to say that Hamilton was pro-business and Madison was for the little guy. I think the most important thing to watch is why they’re doing what they’re doing: what are the motives of each?

Hamilton is favoring honoring the contracts to the current holders because if the U.S. did not, it would have not gain the loyalty of those who bought the notes from the vets. Yes, usually this was the wealthy. But without this group’s loyalty and trust in national government, they would be reluctant to serve as lenders for future endeavors including to fund another war, if necessary.

Additionally, Hamilton was Secretary of the Treasury and was developing a plan to restore United States credit abroad and at home, which would require honoring those contracts to whoever held them.

Madison at the time was a member of the House of Representatives and held the position we call today Speaker of the House. Madison knew better than anyone as principal architect of the Constitution, that the House of Reps represented the interests of the people. As Speaker of the House, he is the highest ranking member of government elected by the popular vote.

As an aside, Re: Madison would not sit idly by and watch the injustice to the vets who sold their notes at lower than face value. Wouldn’t it be just as immoral/injust not to honor the agreement to the purchaser of the note? Buyers bought these notes in good faith. If vets needed the money and were not confident they would see their payment for the war, and were therefore exploited by the wealthy, it is precisely through Hamilton’s plan to strengthen the American economy that would allow for a speedy repayment of United States debts.

If I come across as a raging “Hamiltonian,” although I probably am, it is not my intention. It’s important to keep in mind that each man, while differing ideologically and would account for their approaches to their jobs, the self-interest called for by the position held by each man was, I believe, the primary cause of the dispute.